Heraldís Point

Newsletter for the Heralds of the Kingdom of Atlantia

December AS XXIV, being Gregorian 1999

 

Unto the College of Heralds of Atlantia, does Mistress Rhiannon ui Neill, Triton Principal Herald, send greetings and well wishes this 8th day of December!

 

Happy Holidays! I hope everyone is enjoying the SCA equivalent of a "slow period" and if travelling through this busy season, takes care to do so safely.

 

I was really pleased with the turnout at Unevent. And even more so with the speed in which we went through our meeting. Thanks to Vard for providing candy for our sustenance!

 

LAME DUCK TIME! So, as you all know, I am planning on stepping down in March at Gulf Wars. TRM have decided upon my successor and Master Bran Trefonnen will be taking my place as Triton Principal Herald. I hope you will all join me in congratulating him (or condoling him, whichever you think is more appropriate) and I trust that the College will offer him the same level of support I have enjoyed from you. As March is not that far away, we've got a lot to transfer over, so let's start with warranting. Beginning February 1st, all warrant requests should go to Master Bran.

 

I also want to take a moment to thank Lady Morderyn Tremayne and Lord Eogan MacAilpein for caring enough about this office and the CoH to have put in bids for the job. Both are fine heralds and I hope will continue in their quest for the position of Triton as I think they would each bring good qualities to the position and do a fine job. Anyone else interested should begin thinking about it now. It's never too early to begin training for that kingdom position you might someday wish to hold...

 

As Evan noted recently in the Acorn, Lady Alanna is taking over as Golden Dolphin Herald, effective the 1st of this month. Please begin sending all submissions to her. I want to take a moment, also, to thank Evan for his service as Golden Dolphin Herald the last two years. It was nice to know it was being handled so efficiently. Vivat, Evan!

Remember quarterly reports for the 4th quarter of 1999 are due as of the end of this month. Please try to get them in on time. Thanks!

 

Guess that's about all for now... I'll save my maudlin, teary, goodbye letter for March! <grin>

 

As always,

 

Be courteous; be helpful; be happy!

 

Rhiannon

 

THE SUBMISSION PROCESS

OR

WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO WAIT SIX MONTHS TO HEAR IF MY NAME AND DEVICE PASSED?

 

Written by Lady Isabella Benalca'zar

 

Group heralds frequently get asked one particular question over and over again. "I gave you my name and device submission last week - has it passed yet?" Frequently due to misinformation many submitters believe it takes less than a month to hear back about their name and device -- or worse they think it will take more than a year. Perhaps that is how it is in other kingdoms, but here in Atlantia the submission process takes approximately six months from start to finish.

 

The first step in this process is the actual consultation. A person comes up to a herald and says "Hi I want to register a name and device." Five times out of ten this person has no clue what they want to register. They are looking to the herald to help them choose a name and design their device. The best way to handle this is to start asking them questions. Do they have an idea of a country they would like to be from or a culture they want to portray? Do they have a time period they would like to be from? Is there any symbol or heraldic charge that holds personal meaning for them? Once you have some basis for groundwork then begins opening books of names or armory. If you do not have resources readily available, try to figure out with the person what style of name they want. A search of the web or a trip to a local library can be most useful to help out this submitter. However please remember the burden of finding name documentation etc is on the submitter. You are there to help in any way you can but you are not responsible for doing all their work for them. At a consult table where you have access to resources, then you have a greater chance of finding that name, but at a fighter practice or a group meeting, frequently you may have to point the submitter in the direction of a library.

 

Remember when dealing with a submitter, especially one who has an idea of what they want on their device that the vast majority of them are not familiar with either the Rules of Submissions or heraldic style. Speak to them in English not in blazon if possible. If they understand blazon, great! However even some heralds get confused so it is best to stick to English for the initial consultation.

 

After the name has been chosen and the device designed, it is time to send it up to Golden Dolphin. It is not the responsibility of a local group herald to do conflict checking, however such things are encouraged especially regarding names. For example someone who wants to be Anastasiia Vladimirovna is going to be disappointed as that name was registered in 1985. A quick check of the Armorial either in text form or online would show that the desired name has already been taken or is in conflict. Name checking is easy enough to do. The most important thing to remember is that without a name, there can be no armory. A person whose name is in conflict but whose device is not still cannot register that device.

 

A local herald once they receive the money for the submission must send it to Golden Dolphin within two weeks. When you send a submission to Golden Dolphin Herald you should include three color copies and one black and white outline of any armory. Name forms should be done in duplicate as should any name documentation. Please remember to send the correct amount of fees for each submission. If you send the submission in June, it will be discussed at the Kingdom Letter of Intent meeting in July. This is true no matter what date it arrives at Golden Dolphin during the month - it will be discussed the following month.

 

Once a submission is decided upon at a LOI meeting, it either is returned or it goes to Laurel Sovereign of Arms and the College of Arms of the SCA. In either case within a month the submitter should receive a letter stating which is the case. The kingdom of Atlantia pays for postage and copying of the LOI and the appropriate documents that get sent to over 80 current members of the CoA (this is where the fees go - to Laurel and to postage and xeroxing). The CoA then has four months to comment on the proposed names and devices - the first month is spent in initial commentary, the second in rebuttal to the initial and the third to rebut the previous two months and to continue the discussion of whether or not the design is heraldically correct, period style and registerable within the SCA. After four months have passed, then Laurel rules on the submission at a Laurel Letter of Acceptances and Returns. If Laurel passes it at this meeting then it is registered to the submitter until such time as they release it. Please note that death does not constitute releasing oneís name or armory unless one has a heraldic will on file at Laurelís office for such an occasion.

 

After Laurel has ruled on the submissions, within one month the submitter will be receiving a letter stating the disposition of the item. If a name required spelling changes or grammatical alterations then the submitter will be informed of this if the submitter allowed for such changes when they submitted the initial item.

 

From start to finish in an ideal situation it takes approximately six months - two weeks with the local herald - one to four weeks at kingdom - four months at Laurel - and one month to hear back from the Laurel meeting. Many submitters will expect that this will take years or worse. They can be quite surprised that they went through so quickly. Many others will expect to hear with in a month and will be frustrated that is taking them so long to hear. In any case it is best to know the approximate length of time it takes from start to finish so that you may inform your submitters that it might take them a bit longer to hear back.

 

Please remember that some items will be returned for incomplete documentation, a check may not have been enclosed, or the submitter may have to redraw the device. No matter what the reason it is returned, do your best to help the submitter fix the problem. If the name was structured incorrectly and you canít figure out how to change it ask another herald or email the SCA Heralds list - frequently someone can help out. Incorrect coloring may also be a reason for a return. Donít use orange markers to signify Or or pastel pink for gules. Those will be returned as we do not register pink nor orange.

 

Should you or the submitter be unable to figure out what needs to be done to fix a submission, then contact your immediate supervisor or another herald who can possibly help you. Donít be afraid to ask questions. We all need the help from time to time.

 

 

Heralding Tourneys in the SCA

Written by Lady Isabella Benalca'zar

 

Tourneys can come in various types. However no matter the type of tourney it is, there are still a few things to remember.

 

  1. The marshal is in charge of the tourney. The herald is there for pomp and circumstance. It is the marshal who actually runs the tourney.

     

  2. The MOL is the person who figures out who fights who and in which round. Do not try to help them. If it is a big tourney, they have many index cards with names on them to arrange. A smaller tourney is just as hard - so donít try to be helpful unless asked.

     

  3. Tourneys begin with the litany. The herald goes onto the field, and stands in a place where he or she can easily be heard. The marshal will let you know it is okay to begin.

 

 

 

 

  1. In between the rounds stand in a safe place. Should you have index cards, hold on to them. When the round is over, the marshal has to tell you who won so you can announce it. If he or she tells you to announce "the winner" ask them who won. If they look at you as if you are insane as someone has been lying on the ground, just simply inform them that it is not in your warrant to make that announcement without them telling you who won. It is in fact not your job to be the marshal. And it is possible that something odd may have occurred. This means that perhaps the person lying dead is not quite dead. It is just that it is not your job to determine who won.

     

  2. Repeat as often as you have to. Many tourneys have one round with full litany and then abbreviate the next few rounds so that the heralds donít lose their voices and the fighters donít lose their patience.

     

  3. In big tourneys, you will need to have a runner. This person brings you cards from the MOLs and takes them back, keeping them in order. They get you water. They can take over for you when the water decides it is time to come out. They are your backup. It is frequently best to have another herald be the runner or at least someone who is familiar enough with the tourney style so as to step in if you lose your voice.

 

And the number one rule of field heraldry is WATER IS YOUR FRIEND. Drink lots of it. Wear a hat if possible. Use sunscreen.

 

The second rule of field heraldry is CULTIVATE FRIENDS TO BRING YOU WATER.

 

 

 

Atlantian Herald Roster

(In alphabetical order by SCAdian firstname)

For addresses and phone numbers, you may download the excel spreadsheet once you know the password.

All changes should be sent to Lady Ealdthryth of Humberstone at ealdthryth@altavista.net

 

 

Heraldic Rank

 

Pursuivant Extraordinary

PE

Pursuivant

P

Coronet

C

Herald

H

 

 

SCAdian Name

Modern Name

Email address

Rank

Group

Baron Achbar ibn Ali

James Morrow

Achbar@bellsouth.net

P

At-large

Lord Adam of Erin

Warran Ryan, Jr

Black_star@earthlink.net

P

Highland Foorde

Aedric the Grene

Fred Homan

Aedric@mindspring.com

C

Elvegast

Lord Aengus O'Fearghail

Lynn Gray

C

Tridroichead

Lady Afanasiia Volokhovna

Tracy Wright

ravnrose@intercom.net

PE

Spiaggia Levantina

Lady Alanna of Volchevo Lesa

Lucinda Welenc

rjwelenc@erols.com

H

Lochmere

Lord Alasdair mac Iain of Elderslie

James Gilly

alasdair.maciain@snet.net

PE

At-large

Aleggria De Limbri

Julia Williams

gipsy@vvi.net

C

Baelfire Dunn

Senor Alejandro Ramirez y Mendoza

Bill Ham

revwilliam@altavista.net

PE

At-large

Lady Alexandria Montgomerie

Pam Munday

ishine@hotmail.com

PE

Baelfire Dunn

Alfred of Suffolk

David Baines

alfred1sca@earthlink.net

C

At-large

Alicia of Greyhill

Gen Gravelle

C

Storvik

Lady Alina Silverthorne

Kimberly Telsch

ladymouse@juno.com

PE

At-large

Mistress Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane

E.L. Wimett

silverdragon@charleston.net

H

Triton Staff

Lady Anarra Karlsdottir

Terry L. Neill

71035.3227@compuserve.com

P

At-large

Lady Anna Sabyn

Cheryl Steele

annasabyn@hotmail.com

PE

Attillium

Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland

Brenda Butler

adendra@charleston.net

PE

Hidden Mountain

Lord Arcturus Aleator

James Robbins

arcturus@pobox.com

PE

Buckston-on-Eno

Lady Arianwen ferch Angharad

Rebecca Stidam

myfanwy76@hotmail.com

PE

Dun Carraig

Baron Arnbeorn Bassi Dansson

Arni Pattee

PE

Marinus

AshaHito

Nicholas S. Malone

nix@iolinc.net

PE

At-large

Balian the Inscrutable

F. P. Rothenhoefer

balian@geocities.com

C

Highland Foorde

Lord Bernard Budweis

Rich Brawner

PE

Tir-Y-Don

Lord Blaise de Cormeilles

Jim Trigg

blaise@scadian.net

P

Ponte Alto

Master Bran Trefonnen

Scot W. Myers

swmyers@aol.com

H

Triton Staff

Master Bryce de Byrum

Duane Moore

poetmilitarus@yahoo.com

PE

At-large

Lady Caitriona Inghean Giolla Phadraig

Jennifer Dutschke

embernash@aol.com

PE

St. Georges

Baron Corun MacAnndra

Craig Lee-Allen

corun@clark.net

C

Triton Staff

Lady Cwenhild of Cyddlain Downs

Emily Brownlow

cwenhild@hotmail.com

PE

Cyddlain Downs

Lord Daemon Broussard

Scott Smithers

deacon@rocketmail.com

C

Rayo del Mar

Lady Danielle Schwartzhaupt

Danielle Scott

swrdbabe@aol.com

C

At-large

Danr Bjornson

Don Willadsen

danerunemaster@worldnet.att.net

C

Bordervale Keep

Baron Donal Mac Ruiseart

Jeb Raitt

JBRMM266@aol.com

P

At-large

Lord Eadric Hararand

Timothy Harrop

tim0848@aol.com

P

Roxbury Mill

Lady Ealdthryth of Humberstone

Christine Grewcock

ealdthryth@altavista.net

P

Nottinghill Coill

THLord Eldred AElfwald

John T. Thorpe

eldred@concentric.net

H

Nottinghill Coill

Baroness Emer ny Reyly

Jan Bennett

syrdunc@earthlink.net

PE

Triton Staff

Tighearn Eoghan {'O}g mac Labhrainn

Matthew Newsome

eoganog@aol.com

C

At-large

THLordEoghann Mac Ailpein

Gene Bonar

gbonar@auspex.com

P

Windmasters Hill

Lady Etain of Kells

Jennifer Campbell

etainofkells@hotmail.com

PE

Hawkwood

Lord Evan da Collaureo

Dave Montuori

damont@acm.org

H

Triton Staff

Fionn A Ban

John A. "Gio" Neri

gio5@aol.com

PE

Isenfir

Gaelen MacCuinneagain

Jerry Edwards

P

At-large

Lord Galen Storm

Stanley Harmon

storm@i-america.net

PE

At-large

Lord Gaston Valmont

M. Coty Kannon

mkannon@qrtp.quintiles.com

P

At-large

THLord Giles O'Culzean

Walter Kennedy

P

At-large

Lord Gorm of Berra

Alan MacNeill

gormofberra@home.com

PE

Caer Mear

Lady Gwendolyn of Aaron Isles

Marjorie Flood

PE

Black Diamond

Lady Gwyneth MacDonagh

Marie Dahl

izofgold@aol.com

C

At-large

Duke Gyrth Oldcastle

Gerald O'Leary

H

At-large

Master Herveus d'Ormonde

Michael Houghton

herveus@radix.net

H

Triton Staff

Lord Hrodbeorth MacBeath

Rob Metzler

H

Triton Staff

Hunting Gunnar

Marvin Gunn Jr.

gunn@amaze.net

C

Shire of Berley Court

Lady Isabella Benalca'zar

Anne Dorwart

benalcazar@juno.com

H

Triton Staff

Hraefn Jade vom Scharzwald

Alexandra Fagelson

hraefnn@yahoo.com

C

At-large

Lord James Beckett of Westmorland

Scott Silvers

beckett@anent.com

C

Barony of Stierbach

Lord Jonathan Blackbow

David Ritterskamp

blackbow@bellsouth.net

PE

Triton Staff

Julian Goodwyn

Janell K. Lovelace

jlovelace@dsava.com

PE

At-large

Lord Julien de Montfort

Stephen Mumford

julien@spiaggia.org

P

At-large

Kallimani Irska J{o}kulsdottir

Dominica J. Harlan

the_kilmeny@yahoo.com

C

Guardians of the Sacred Stone

Kassandra of Gretua Glen

Elizabeth Gettle

C

Yarnvid

Lord Kevin of Thornbury

Kevin Maxson

kevin@maxson.com

PE

At-large

BaronKonrad der ruhige Bar

Jay Shaner

jshaner@solarex.com

P

Triton Staff

Lord Leifr Johansson

Lance Harrop

C

At-large

Lynnet the Lost

Lynne Temple

PE

Saxon Moor

Lady Maddelena Rondinelli

Deborah Minyard

P

At-large

Lord Manus MacDhai

Scott Dean

scott_dean@ncsu.edu

PE

At-large

Margalite de Clary

Margaret E. Fowler

PE

Cathanar

Mistress Margaret Cameron

Maggie Billingslea

scotswmmn@aol.com

C

Yarnvid

Lady Maridonna Benvenuti

Andrea Hicks

maridonna@worldnet.att.net

P

Windmasters Hill

San Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori

John Sellers

jsellers@cris.com

C

At-large

Mistress Megara di Allessandra

Jacqueline Lee

P

Tear-Sea's Shore

Baroness Meleri ferch Iasper ap Dafydd du

Sharon Henderson

sharon@intercon.com fitzy@intercon.com inter26@worldlink.com

P

Stierbach

Melisant of Volchesa Lesa

Melissa Kurpicski

melisant@hotmail.com

PE

Bright Hills

Lord Michael Batcok

Michael Brindle

PE

Marinus

Mistress Minowara Kiritsubo

Elaine Koogler

ekoogler@cheaspeake.net

H

At-large

Lady Morderyn Tremayne

Angela Pincha-Neel

angela@ascc.lucent.com

P

Triton Staff

Lord Morgan Wainwright

Shawn Riggin

C

At-large

Lady Muirgheal inghean ui Ogain

Manly Summerfield

amber3wa@aol.com

C

At-large

Dom Pedro de Alcazar

Craig Levin

clevin@ripco.com

P

Storvik

Baron Peter Hawkyns

Richard Durham

seabhac1@yahoo.com

H

Sacred Stone

Lord Philip Bell

Phillip Jones

jonesj@infoave.net

C

At-large

Master Phillip of Ghent

Jim Garm

jgarm@chesapeake.net

P

At-large

Baroness Prydian Aurelia Emrys

Kacey Carter

PAEmrys@aol.com

P

At-large

HRH Ragnar Blackhammer

Chuck Kane

blackhammer@juno.com

PE

At-large

Mistress Rhiannon ui Neill

Beverly Robinson-Curry

corvus2@worldnet.att.net

H

Triton Staff

Richard Grimm

James Dutrow II

C

Hindscroft

Lord Richard Mitchell

Richard V. Macri

rvmacri@bellsouth.net

P

Seareach

Lady Rioghnae Slaine NiChonaill

Jennifer Kuiper

gryphon@clark.net

C

Roxbury Mill

Lord Rodrigo de Toledo

Eric Tiso

etiso@hotmail.com

P

Spiaggia Levantina

Rosalind Delamere

Alison Stalls

stalls@email.unc.edu

C

Kappellenberg

Lady Rosalind Jehanne

Jonna Bernstein

paradox@gamewood.net

C

Drachentor

Lady Roswitha of Swansfield

Jean Amann

P

Lochmere

Rowen ferch Rhys

Amy Smyth-Wilson

rowenrhys@aol.com

C

Sudentor

Lady Signy Feilan Bjarnardůttir

Susan Terry

jsellers@cris.com

C

At-large

Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh

Jane Sellers

jsellers@cris.com

P

Hindscroft

Lord Thomas de Grey

Terry C. Johnson

tjeop@hotmail.com

C

At-large

Thomas MacFinn

Dan Mackison

dan.mackison@pobox.com

C

At-large

Lord Thor Thorinson

George Murrell

gmurrell@mindspring.com

C

Falcon Cree

Baron Tirloch of Tallaght

Tom Bilodeau

tbilodeau@intelicent.net

H

Triton Staff

Tomas Niallagain

David Knebel

herault@dasia.net

PE

Guardians of the Sacred Stone

Lord Tristan Marquez

Beren Longstreet

beren@iname.net

P

Aire Faucon

Valen Ravenwood

John Richmond

spectre_00@aol.com

C

Crannog Mor

Lord William Herbertson

William Reeb

PE

Citadel of the 4 Winds

Lord William Ringlancer

William Garrett

ringlancer@hotmail.com

PE

Bright Hills

Jessica Levai

jeleva@maila.wm.edu

PE

Rencester

MaryAgnes Costello

costello53@aol.com

C

At-large

Robert Olski

C

Seareach

 

 

 

 

 

From the Editor

 

Greetings to all and asundry from Lady Mordeyrn Tremayne!

 

I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas and had an excellent New Year start! I apologize for this issue being a touch late. I was unable to access my Heraldís Point files through the Christmas break and had to wait until I returned to work after a much needed couple week break.

 

This newsletter is available electronically at:

http://www.angelfire.com/ak3/checkylady/HeraldPDec99.html

 

All members who have email addresses are informed via email when the issue is available. Those who do not have web access will be mailed a copy.

 

The full College of Heralds of Atlantia Roster is available for download at

http://www.angelfire.com/ak3/checkylady/heraldry.html

 

provided you know the password. You can get that password from Mistress Rhiannon, Lady Ealdthryth or Lady Mordrea once we verify you have the right to that information.

 

If you have articles you wish printed here, please send them via email to angelanc@lucent.com as a text file or in Word.

 

In service to Crown and Kingdom,

 

Mordrea

 

The Legal Stuff

 

Heraldís Point is the newsletter for the members of the College of Heralds of Atlantia. This is the December 1999 issue. This newsletter is published quarterly (March, July, September, December) and is available from Lady Mordeyrn Tremayne (Angela Pincha Neel) 125 Oakridge Ave, Fayetteville, NC 28305. Heraldís Point is not a corporate publication of the Society for Creative Anachronism, Inc. (SCA) and does not delineate SCA policies. Heraldís Point DOES delineate Heraldic policies as they relate to the Kingdom of Atlantia. Corrections and updates should be sent to the Triton Principal Herald, Mistress Rhiannon Ui Neill

 

 

Heraldís Point

c/o Mordeyrn Tremayne

(Angela K. Pincha-Neel)

125 Oakridge Avenue

Fayetteville, NC 18305