Herald's Point
The Occasional Journal for the College of Heralds of Atlantia

Volume 4, Issue 6 -- November/December 2007 (A.S. XLII)




Artwork credit: Maestra Julianna Fiorentini


Unto the heralds of Atlantia, greetings from the Chick-in-Charge!

(NOTE:  3rd Quarter reports are/were due on October 31st. If you haven't submitted yours, do so QUICK!)


Being as it is just before Halloween as I write this, my mood is rather irreverent. Halloween is my favorite holiday, perhaps because the child in me never grew up! But I know I'm not alone, ‘cause what do we all do on weekends? We play dress up! Part of what appeals to me about heraldry stems back to childhood too. I've always loved crayons and markers and coloring books… So, what are heraldic submissions, but pages out of a coloring book?!?!  J


Recently, I've been working on boosting my personal heraldic library. Do you know about Amazon.com's used books? You can often find quite a few of the volumes on the recommended sources list for greatly reduced prices (and since some of them are actually out-of-print, finding a copy is WHOO! worthy!). Give it a look-see. For less than $20, I picked up three volumes last week which were in very good condition.


Speaking of court reports… Oh? We weren't? Well, we are now. One of the requirements with your court report is that you provide the Clerk of Precedence with the modern names of the award recipients. The reason for this is that we use that modern name as a cross-reference in the database. There might be 2 Robert of Kilkenny's, but only one of them has the modern name of Bob Schnitzel. Now, there are only 3 people with access to the full database (and I've forgotten my password, so really, just 2), so we maintain privacy of these names. But I've heard a lot of people complain about not being able to get the modern names. Well, I have a few hints…



Now, if you do all that and you still can't find their modern name, the Clerk of Precedence will still take the report (and you should NEVER hold up filing your report in a timely fashion just for lack of one or two modern names), but for accuracy's sake, we ask that you make your best attempt.


Leaving that topic and poorly segueing on, if you are interested on participating in the processing of submissions, please email Mistress Alisoun and get signed up on the internal commenting list. It's an excellent way to improve your book heraldry skills.


I hope that these issues are of benefit to one and all. I put out a little quiz recently to see if I could get a gauge on how many people actually read our newsletter, but unfortunately, the response level was poor. I hope that really didn't reflect our readership.


Finally, I want to thank Master Herveus and Lord Pedro for preparing a lovely quiz for this issue on the basics of the Rules for Submissions. It's just for fun and education, so give it a whirl!


And let me know what you'd like to see in future issues!


-- Rhiannon


Mistress Rhiannon ui Neill

Triton Principal Herald

House Corvus, Atlantia



 A Word from the Newsletter Editor


Greetings unto all to whom these presents come from Lady Patricia of Trakai!


As I wrap up my first year of serving as your newsletter editor, I must say that I've been enjoying the job and learning a lot from it. I thank Master Herveus and Dom Pedro for the quiz that appears below, and you'd better believe that I'll be answering these questions for myself. I'll probably have some spirited discussions of some of the answers with them, too. :-)


Heraldry can pop up anywhere. Recently I was revisiting the music of my "bright college days," long before I joined the SCA, and dug out a CD of a John Entwistle solo concert recorded for the King Biscuit Flower Hour. (The late John Entwistle was, of course, the bassist for the British rock group The Who; my interest in that group dates back to, oh, maybe A.S. VII.) At the end of the long essay that constitutes what used to be called the "liner notes," the artist stuck in something that looks very much like an Entwistle family coat of arms! I was initially unsure of the blazon because the CD booklet's inner pages were printed in B&W, but a little searching did confirm the Entwistle family device: Argent, on a bend engrailed sable three mullets argent. According to my quick check of the online O&A, no one in the SCA has registered this device as their own; I'll leave it to others to decide whether the SCA should protect the Entwistle device as "important non-SCA arms."


I've procrastinated on a couple of articles I have been wanting to write for this newsletter, namely on Lithuanian heraldry and on heraldic museum exhibits. However, YOU don't have to do the same! Please send me any and all ideas you have for newsletter stories, illustrations, games and puzzles. Class notes from University are fine, too. See you in 2008!


Lady Patricia, Editor


Heraldic Quiz

Prepared by Master Herveus d'Ormonde and Lord Pedro de Alcazar


These questions are not meant to necessarily test your knowledge, but to make you go look stuff up from various sources. Have fun.


1. What is the maximum number of badges a person may register? A shire? A barony?


2. What element(s) must a personal name have to be registerable?


3. What criteria must be met to use the "regional style" exception for a piece of armory?


4. Consider "(fieldless) A mullet within a mascle azure". Is this registerable?


5. Does "Or, a triquetra within the horns of a decrescent all within a tressure purpure" conflict with "Or, a triquetra within an annulet all within a tressure purpure"? Which rules apply?


6. What is the difference between an English panther and a continental panther?


7. Consider a name with a German given name and an Arabic byname. Under what condition is this combination registerable? How would this person's name
most likely been recorded in Germany? In Saracen lands? In Rome?


8. How often must a kingdom produce a letter of intent?


9. How long do you have to submit a change from a holding name without having to pay fees?


10. Is the tincture "ermine" considered light, dark, or neutral? How about "vair"?


11. What distinguishes a wolf from a fox in heraldic art?


12. Where does Court Barony rank in an order of march? What about Landed Barony?


13. Many people believe that heralds, like furriers, claim sable as a fur. Is this true?


14. A person approaches you and explains that he would like to register "Gules, a piping beast Or." You explain that currently, the piping beast is no longer registerable. He replies that because his mother, many years ago, registered "Azure, a piping beast Or", he can do so under the "Grandfather Clause". Is his understanding of the rules correct? Why?



Point of Fact

The barnicle (also known as the horse-bray, broye, or broie) can be traced back to the 12th century. It appears in the arms of the related families of Joinville (France) and Genneville (England) -- probably a cant on the name of one family member, Simon de Broye. The charge is a stylized version of a type of strong bit used to restrain a restive horse or donkey. An O&A database yielded only 14 hits on "barnacle," suggesting that there are lots of opportunities to use this charge in future devices and badges.


Heraldry is an art as old as Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine, and as young as the newest submission. I welcome you to join in exploring it with your colleagues, the heralds of Atlantia -- this is your journal. If you have always wanted to write an article that would be read by every Atlantian herald, or if you have a question you would like to ask of all the heralds of Atlantia, send me a message at Patoodle AT aol DOT com! I prefer that any articles or other messages come as plain text (ASCII), as opposed to HTML or some other format. Thank you!



In Service, 

Patricia of Trakai


Herald's Point is the newsletter for the members of the College of Heralds of Atlantia. Herald's Point is not a corporate publication of the Society for Creative Anachronism, Inc. (SCA) and does not delineate SCA policies. Herald's Point does delineate policies specific to the College of Heralds of the Kingdom of Atlantia. Copies of this newsletter are available from: Patricia of Trakai (Patty Daukantas), 7740 Lakecrest Drive, Greenbelt, MD 20770.