Herald’s Point
Newsletter for the Heralds of the Kingdom of Atlantia
December AS XXIV, being Gregorian 1999
Unto the College of Heralds of Atlantia, does Mistress Rhiannon ui Neill, Triton Principal Herald, send greetings and well wishes this 8th day of December!
Happy Holidays! I hope everyone is enjoying the SCA equivalent of a "slow period" and if travelling through this busy season, takes care to do so safely.
I was really pleased with the turnout at Unevent. And even more so with the speed in which we went through our meeting. Thanks to Vard for providing candy for our sustenance!
LAME DUCK TIME! So, as you all know, I am planning on stepping down in March at Gulf Wars. TRM have decided upon my successor and Master Bran Trefonnen will be taking my place as Triton Principal Herald. I hope you will all join me in congratulating him (or condoling him, whichever you think is more appropriate) and I trust that the College will offer him the same level of support I have enjoyed from you. As March is not that far away, we've got a lot to transfer over, so let's start with warranting. Beginning February 1st, all warrant requests should go to Master Bran.
I also want to take a moment to thank Lady Morderyn Tremayne and Lord Eogan MacAilpein for caring enough about this office and the CoH to have put in bids for the job. Both are fine heralds and I hope will continue in their quest for the position of Triton as I think they would each bring good qualities to the position and do a fine job. Anyone else interested should begin thinking about it now. It's never too early to begin training for that kingdom position you might someday wish to hold...
As Evan noted recently in the Acorn, Lady Alanna is taking over as Golden Dolphin Herald, effective the 1st of this month. Please begin sending all submissions to her. I want to take a moment, also, to thank Evan for his service as Golden Dolphin Herald the last two years. It was nice to know it was being handled so efficiently. Vivat, Evan!
Remember quarterly reports for the 4th quarter of 1999 are due as of the end of this month. Please try to get them in on time. Thanks!
Guess that's about all for now... I'll save my maudlin, teary, goodbye letter for March! <grin>
As always,
Be courteous; be helpful; be happy!
Rhiannon
THE SUBMISSION PROCESS
OR
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO WAIT SIX MONTHS TO HEAR IF MY NAME AND DEVICE PASSED?
Written by Lady Isabella Benalca'zar
Group heralds frequently get asked one particular question over and over again. "I gave you my name and device submission last week - has it passed yet?" Frequently due to misinformation many submitters believe it takes less than a month to hear back about their name and device -- or worse they think it will take more than a year. Perhaps that is how it is in other kingdoms, but here in Atlantia the submission process takes approximately six months from start to finish.
The first step in this process is the actual consultation. A person comes up to a herald and says "Hi I want to register a name and device." Five times out of ten this person has no clue what they want to register. They are looking to the herald to help them choose a name and design their device. The best way to handle this is to start asking them questions. Do they have an idea of a country they would like to be from or a culture they want to portray? Do they have a time period they would like to be from? Is there any symbol or heraldic charge that holds personal meaning for them? Once you have some basis for groundwork then begins opening books of names or armory. If you do not have resources readily available, try to figure out with the person what style of name they want. A search of the web or a trip to a local library can be most useful to help out this submitter. However please remember the burden of finding name documentation etc is on the submitter. You are there to help in any way you can but you are not responsible for doing all their work for them. At a consult table where you have access to resources, then you have a greater chance of finding that name, but at a fighter practice or a group meeting, frequently you may have to point the submitter in the direction of a library.
Remember when dealing with a submitter, especially one who has an idea of what they want on their device that the vast majority of them are not familiar with either the Rules of Submissions or heraldic style. Speak to them in English not in blazon if possible. If they understand blazon, great! However even some heralds get confused so it is best to stick to English for the initial consultation.
After the name has been chosen and the device designed, it is time to send it up to Golden Dolphin. It is not the responsibility of a local group herald to do conflict checking, however such things are encouraged especially regarding names. For example someone who wants to be Anastasiia Vladimirovna is going to be disappointed as that name was registered in 1985. A quick check of the Armorial either in text form or online would show that the desired name has already been taken or is in conflict. Name checking is easy enough to do. The most important thing to remember is that without a name, there can be no armory. A person whose name is in conflict but whose device is not still cannot register that device.
A local herald once they receive the money for the submission must send it to Golden Dolphin within two weeks. When you send a submission to Golden Dolphin Herald you should include three color copies and one black and white outline of any armory. Name forms should be done in duplicate as should any name documentation. Please remember to send the correct amount of fees for each submission. If you send the submission in June, it will be discussed at the Kingdom Letter of Intent meeting in July. This is true no matter what date it arrives at Golden Dolphin during the month - it will be discussed the following month.
Once a submission is decided upon at a LOI meeting, it either is returned or it goes to Laurel Sovereign of Arms and the College of Arms of the SCA. In either case within a month the submitter should receive a letter stating which is the case. The kingdom of Atlantia pays for postage and copying of the LOI and the appropriate documents that get sent to over 80 current members of the CoA (this is where the fees go - to Laurel and to postage and xeroxing). The CoA then has four months to comment on the proposed names and devices - the first month is spent in initial commentary, the second in rebuttal to the initial and the third to rebut the previous two months and to continue the discussion of whether or not the design is heraldically correct, period style and registerable within the SCA. After four months have passed, then Laurel rules on the submission at a Laurel Letter of Acceptances and Returns. If Laurel passes it at this meeting then it is registered to the submitter until such time as they release it. Please note that death does not constitute releasing one’s name or armory unless one has a heraldic will on file at Laurel’s office for such an occasion.
After Laurel has ruled on the submissions, within one month the submitter will be receiving a letter stating the disposition of the item. If a name required spelling changes or grammatical alterations then the submitter will be informed of this if the submitter allowed for such changes when they submitted the initial item.
From start to finish in an ideal situation it takes approximately six months - two weeks with the local herald - one to four weeks at kingdom - four months at Laurel - and one month to hear back from the Laurel meeting. Many submitters will expect that this will take years or worse. They can be quite surprised that they went through so quickly. Many others will expect to hear with in a month and will be frustrated that is taking them so long to hear. In any case it is best to know the approximate length of time it takes from start to finish so that you may inform your submitters that it might take them a bit longer to hear back.
Please remember that some items will be returned for incomplete documentation, a check may not have been enclosed, or the submitter may have to redraw the device. No matter what the reason it is returned, do your best to help the submitter fix the problem. If the name was structured incorrectly and you can’t figure out how to change it ask another herald or email the SCA Heralds list - frequently someone can help out. Incorrect coloring may also be a reason for a return. Don’t use orange markers to signify Or or pastel pink for gules. Those will be returned as we do not register pink nor orange.
Should you or the submitter be unable to figure out what needs to be done to fix a submission, then contact your immediate supervisor or another herald who can possibly help you. Don’t be afraid to ask questions. We all need the help from time to time.
Heralding Tourneys in the SCA
Written by Lady Isabella Benalca'zar
Tourneys can come in various types. However no matter the type of tourney it is, there are still a few things to remember.
And the number one rule of field heraldry is WATER IS YOUR FRIEND. Drink lots of it. Wear a hat if possible. Use sunscreen.
The second rule of field heraldry is CULTIVATE FRIENDS TO BRING YOU WATER.
Atlantian Herald Roster
(In alphabetical order by SCAdian firstname)
For addresses and phone numbers, you may download the excel spreadsheet once you know the password.
All changes should be sent to Lady Ealdthryth of Humberstone at ealdthryth@altavista.net
|
Heraldic Rank |
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Pursuivant Extraordinary |
PE |
|
Pursuivant |
P |
|
Coronet |
C |
|
Herald |
H |
|
SCAdian Name |
Modern Name |
Email address |
Rank |
Group |
|
Baron Achbar ibn Ali |
James Morrow |
Achbar@bellsouth.net |
P |
At-large |
|
Lord Adam of Erin |
Warran Ryan, Jr |
Black_star@earthlink.net |
P |
Highland Foorde |
|
Aedric the Grene |
Fred Homan |
Aedric@mindspring.com |
C |
Elvegast |
|
Lord Aengus O'Fearghail |
Lynn Gray |
C |
Tridroichead | |
|
Lady Afanasiia Volokhovna |
Tracy Wright |
ravnrose@intercom.net |
PE |
Spiaggia Levantina |
|
Lady Alanna of Volchevo Lesa |
Lucinda Welenc |
rjwelenc@erols.com |
H |
Lochmere |
|
Lord Alasdair mac Iain of Elderslie |
James Gilly |
alasdair.maciain@snet.net |
PE |
At-large |
|
Aleggria De Limbri |
Julia Williams |
gipsy@vvi.net |
C |
Baelfire Dunn |
|
Senor Alejandro Ramirez y Mendoza |
Bill Ham |
revwilliam@altavista.net |
PE |
At-large |
|
Lady Alexandria Montgomerie |
Pam Munday |
ishine@hotmail.com |
PE |
Baelfire Dunn |
|
Alfred of Suffolk |
David Baines |
alfred1sca@earthlink.net |
C |
At-large |
|
Alicia of Greyhill |
Gen Gravelle |
C |
Storvik | |
|
Lady Alina Silverthorne |
Kimberly Telsch |
ladymouse@juno.com |
PE |
At-large |
|
Mistress Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane |
E.L. Wimett |
silverdragon@charleston.net |
H |
Triton Staff |
|
Lady Anarra Karlsdottir |
Terry L. Neill |
71035.3227@compuserve.com |
P |
At-large |
|
Lady Anna Sabyn |
Cheryl Steele |
annasabyn@hotmail.com |
PE |
Attillium |
|
Mistress Aodh Adendra Marland |
Brenda Butler |
adendra@charleston.net |
PE |
Hidden Mountain |
|
Lord Arcturus Aleator |
James Robbins |
arcturus@pobox.com |
PE |
Buckston-on-Eno |
|
Lady Arianwen ferch Angharad |
Rebecca Stidam |
myfanwy76@hotmail.com |
PE |
Dun Carraig |
|
Baron Arnbeorn Bassi Dansson |
Arni Pattee |
PE |
Marinus | |
|
AshaHito |
Nicholas S. Malone |
nix@iolinc.net |
PE |
At-large |
|
Balian the Inscrutable |
F. P. Rothenhoefer |
balian@geocities.com |
C |
Highland Foorde |
|
Lord Bernard Budweis |
Rich Brawner |
PE |
Tir-Y-Don | |
|
Lord Blaise de Cormeilles |
Jim Trigg |
blaise@scadian.net |
P |
Ponte Alto |
|
Master Bran Trefonnen |
Scot W. Myers |
swmyers@aol.com |
H |
Triton Staff |
|
Master Bryce de Byrum |
Duane Moore |
poetmilitarus@yahoo.com |
PE |
At-large |
|
Lady Caitriona Inghean Giolla Phadraig |
Jennifer Dutschke |
embernash@aol.com |
PE |
St. Georges |
|
Baron Corun MacAnndra |
Craig Lee-Allen |
corun@clark.net |
C |
Triton Staff |
|
Lady Cwenhild of Cyddlain Downs |
Emily Brownlow |
cwenhild@hotmail.com |
PE |
Cyddlain Downs |
|
Lord Daemon Broussard |
Scott Smithers |
deacon@rocketmail.com |
C |
Rayo del Mar |
|
Lady Danielle Schwartzhaupt |
Danielle Scott |
swrdbabe@aol.com |
C |
At-large |
|
Danr Bjornson |
Don Willadsen |
danerunemaster@worldnet.att.net |
C |
Bordervale Keep |
|
Baron Donal Mac Ruiseart |
Jeb Raitt |
JBRMM266@aol.com |
P |
At-large |
|
Lord Eadric Hararand |
Timothy Harrop |
tim0848@aol.com |
P |
Roxbury Mill |
|
Lady Ealdthryth of Humberstone |
Christine Grewcock |
ealdthryth@altavista.net |
P |
Nottinghill Coill |
|
THLord Eldred AElfwald |
John T. Thorpe |
eldred@concentric.net |
H |
Nottinghill Coill |
|
Baroness Emer ny Reyly |
Jan Bennett |
syrdunc@earthlink.net |
PE |
Triton Staff |
|
Tighearn Eoghan {'O}g mac Labhrainn |
Matthew Newsome |
eoganog@aol.com |
C |
At-large |
|
THLordEoghann Mac Ailpein |
Gene Bonar |
gbonar@auspex.com |
P |
Windmasters Hill |
|
Lady Etain of Kells |
Jennifer Campbell |
etainofkells@hotmail.com |
PE |
Hawkwood |
|
Lord Evan da Collaureo |
Dave Montuori |
damont@acm.org |
H |
Triton Staff |
|
Fionn A Ban |
John A. "Gio" Neri |
gio5@aol.com |
PE |
Isenfir |
|
Gaelen MacCuinneagain |
Jerry Edwards |
P |
At-large | |
|
Lord Galen Storm |
Stanley Harmon |
storm@i-america.net |
PE |
At-large |
|
Lord Gaston Valmont |
M. Coty Kannon |
mkannon@qrtp.quintiles.com |
P |
At-large |
|
THLord Giles O'Culzean |
Walter Kennedy |
P |
At-large | |
|
Lord Gorm of Berra |
Alan MacNeill |
gormofberra@home.com |
PE |
Caer Mear |
|
Lady Gwendolyn of Aaron Isles |
Marjorie Flood |
PE |
Black Diamond | |
|
Lady Gwyneth MacDonagh |
Marie Dahl |
izofgold@aol.com |
C |
At-large |
|
Duke Gyrth Oldcastle |
Gerald O'Leary |
H |
At-large | |
|
Master Herveus d'Ormonde |
Michael Houghton |
herveus@radix.net |
H |
Triton Staff |
|
Lord Hrodbeorth MacBeath |
Rob Metzler |
H |
Triton Staff | |
|
Hunting Gunnar |
Marvin Gunn Jr. |
gunn@amaze.net |
C |
Shire of Berley Court |
|
Lady Isabella Benalca'zar |
Anne Dorwart |
benalcazar@juno.com |
H |
Triton Staff |
|
Hraefn Jade vom Scharzwald |
Alexandra Fagelson |
hraefnn@yahoo.com |
C |
At-large |
|
Lord James Beckett of Westmorland |
Scott Silvers |
beckett@anent.com |
C |
Barony of Stierbach |
|
Lord Jonathan Blackbow |
David Ritterskamp |
blackbow@bellsouth.net |
PE |
Triton Staff |
|
Julian Goodwyn |
Janell K. Lovelace |
jlovelace@dsava.com |
PE |
At-large |
|
Lord Julien de Montfort |
Stephen Mumford |
julien@spiaggia.org |
P |
At-large |
|
Kallimani Irska J{o}kulsdottir |
Dominica J. Harlan |
the_kilmeny@yahoo.com |
C |
Guardians of the Sacred Stone |
|
Kassandra of Gretua Glen |
Elizabeth Gettle |
C |
Yarnvid | |
|
Lord Kevin of Thornbury |
Kevin Maxson |
kevin@maxson.com |
PE |
At-large |
|
BaronKonrad der ruhige Bar |
Jay Shaner |
jshaner@solarex.com |
P |
Triton Staff |
|
Lord Leifr Johansson |
Lance Harrop |
C |
At-large | |
|
Lynnet the Lost |
Lynne Temple |
PE |
Saxon Moor | |
|
Lady Maddelena Rondinelli |
Deborah Minyard |
P |
At-large | |
|
Lord Manus MacDhai |
Scott Dean |
scott_dean@ncsu.edu |
PE |
At-large |
|
Margalite de Clary |
Margaret E. Fowler |
PE |
Cathanar | |
|
Mistress Margaret Cameron |
Maggie Billingslea |
scotswmmn@aol.com |
C |
Yarnvid |
|
Lady Maridonna Benvenuti |
Andrea Hicks |
maridonna@worldnet.att.net |
P |
Windmasters Hill |
|
San Matsudaira Kentarou Toshiyori |
John Sellers |
jsellers@cris.com |
C |
At-large |
|
Mistress Megara di Allessandra |
Jacqueline Lee |
P |
Tear-Sea's Shore | |
|
Baroness Meleri ferch Iasper ap Dafydd du |
Sharon Henderson |
sharon@intercon.com fitzy@intercon.com inter26@worldlink.com |
P |
Stierbach |
|
Melisant of Volchesa Lesa |
Melissa Kurpicski |
melisant@hotmail.com |
PE |
Bright Hills |
|
Lord Michael Batcok |
Michael Brindle |
PE |
Marinus | |
|
Mistress Minowara Kiritsubo |
Elaine Koogler |
ekoogler@cheaspeake.net |
H |
At-large |
|
Lady Morderyn Tremayne |
Angela Pincha-Neel |
angela@ascc.lucent.com |
P |
Triton Staff |
|
Lord Morgan Wainwright |
Shawn Riggin |
C |
At-large | |
|
Lady Muirgheal inghean ui Ogain |
Manly Summerfield |
amber3wa@aol.com |
C |
At-large |
|
Dom Pedro de Alcazar |
Craig Levin |
clevin@ripco.com |
P |
Storvik |
|
Baron Peter Hawkyns |
Richard Durham |
seabhac1@yahoo.com |
H |
Sacred Stone |
|
Lord Philip Bell |
Phillip Jones |
jonesj@infoave.net |
C |
At-large |
|
Master Phillip of Ghent |
Jim Garm |
jgarm@chesapeake.net |
P |
At-large |
|
Baroness Prydian Aurelia Emrys |
Kacey Carter |
PAEmrys@aol.com |
P |
At-large |
|
HRH Ragnar Blackhammer |
Chuck Kane |
blackhammer@juno.com |
PE |
At-large |
|
Mistress Rhiannon ui Neill |
Beverly Robinson-Curry |
corvus2@worldnet.att.net |
H |
Triton Staff |
|
Richard Grimm |
James Dutrow II |
C |
Hindscroft | |
|
Lord Richard Mitchell |
Richard V. Macri |
rvmacri@bellsouth.net |
P |
Seareach |
|
Lady Rioghnae Slaine NiChonaill |
Jennifer Kuiper |
gryphon@clark.net |
C |
Roxbury Mill |
|
Lord Rodrigo de Toledo |
Eric Tiso |
etiso@hotmail.com |
P |
Spiaggia Levantina |
|
Rosalind Delamere |
Alison Stalls |
stalls@email.unc.edu |
C |
Kappellenberg |
|
Lady Rosalind Jehanne |
Jonna Bernstein |
paradox@gamewood.net |
C |
Drachentor |
|
Lady Roswitha of Swansfield |
Jean Amann |
P |
Lochmere | |
|
Rowen ferch Rhys |
Amy Smyth-Wilson |
rowenrhys@aol.com |
C |
Sudentor |
|
Lady Signy Feilan Bjarnardóttir |
Susan Terry |
jsellers@cris.com |
C |
At-large |
|
Lady Sine ni Dheaghaidh |
Jane Sellers |
jsellers@cris.com |
P |
Hindscroft |
|
Lord Thomas de Grey |
Terry C. Johnson |
tjeop@hotmail.com |
C |
At-large |
|
Thomas MacFinn |
Dan Mackison |
dan.mackison@pobox.com |
C |
At-large |
|
Lord Thor Thorinson |
George Murrell |
gmurrell@mindspring.com |
C |
Falcon Cree |
|
Baron Tirloch of Tallaght |
Tom Bilodeau |
tbilodeau@intelicent.net |
H |
Triton Staff |
|
Tomas Niallagain |
David Knebel |
herault@dasia.net |
PE |
Guardians of the Sacred Stone |
|
Lord Tristan Marquez |
Beren Longstreet |
beren@iname.net |
P |
Aire Faucon |
|
Valen Ravenwood |
John Richmond |
spectre_00@aol.com |
C |
Crannog Mor |
|
Lord William Herbertson |
William Reeb |
PE |
Citadel of the 4 Winds | |
|
Lord William Ringlancer |
William Garrett |
ringlancer@hotmail.com |
PE |
Bright Hills |
|
Jessica Levai |
jeleva@maila.wm.edu |
PE |
Rencester | |
|
MaryAgnes Costello |
costello53@aol.com |
C |
At-large | |
|
Robert Olski |
C |
Seareach |
From the Editor
Greetings to all and asundry from Lady Mordeyrn Tremayne!
I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas and had an excellent New Year start! I apologize for this issue being a touch late. I was unable to access my Herald’s Point files through the Christmas break and had to wait until I returned to work after a much needed couple week break.
This newsletter is available electronically at:
http://www.angelfire.com/ak3/checkylady/HeraldPDec99.html
All members who have email addresses are informed via email when the issue is available. Those who do not have web access will be mailed a copy.
The full College of Heralds of Atlantia Roster is available for download at
http://www.angelfire.com/ak3/checkylady/heraldry.html
provided you know the password. You can get that password from Mistress Rhiannon, Lady Ealdthryth or Lady Mordrea once we verify you have the right to that information.
If you have articles you wish printed here, please send them via email to
angelanc@lucent.com as a text file or in Word.
In service to Crown and Kingdom,
Mordrea
The Legal Stuff
Herald’s Point is the newsletter for the members of the College of Heralds of Atlantia. This is the December 1999 issue. This newsletter is published quarterly (March, July, September, December) and is available from Lady Mordeyrn Tremayne (Angela Pincha Neel) 125 Oakridge Ave, Fayetteville, NC 28305. Herald’s Point is not a corporate publication of the Society for Creative Anachronism, Inc. (SCA) and does not delineate SCA policies. Herald’s Point DOES delineate Heraldic policies as they relate to the Kingdom of Atlantia. Corrections and updates should be sent to the Triton Principal Herald, Mistress Rhiannon Ui Neill
Herald’s Point
c/o Mordeyrn Tremayne
(Angela K. Pincha-Neel)
125 Oakridge Avenue
Fayetteville, NC 18305